How to Control $100K in Stocks with Only $25K Down With Erwin Szeto
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How to Control $100K in Stocks with Only $25K Down With Erwin Szeto

In this episode of the Wisdom Lifestyle Money Show, host Scott Dillingham sits down with Erwin Szeto, a seasoned real estate investor, licensed realtor, and insurance professional who has built an eight-figure portfolio through strategic investing. Erwin shares his remarkable journey from immigrant child to successful investor, revealing how the book Rich Dad Poor Dad transformed his understanding of wealth-building and led him from stock market losses during the dot-com bubble into decades of profitable real estate investing across more than 40 properties.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn when Erwin introduces a game-changing investment strategy that allows investors to control stock market assets with only 25% down payment. This leveraged investing approach uses segregated funds, which are insurance-based investment products offered by Canadian insurance companies that combine growth potential with principal protection guarantees of 75%. Unlike traditional stock market investing where you must pay 100% upfront, this strategy enables investors to leverage their capital similar to how real estate investors use mortgages, potentially multiplying returns significantly while maintaining built-in downside protection.

Erwin breaks down the mathematics behind why this approach can outperform traditional real estate investing in certain scenarios. With the S&P 500 historically returning approximately 10% annually and investors only needing to put down 25%, the effective return on invested capital could reach 40% before fees, eclipsing typical real estate appreciation of 3-5%. The strategy also offers headache-free passive investing without tenant management, property maintenance, or the operational complexities that come with landlord responsibilities.

Beyond returns, Erwin highlights the powerful estate planning benefits of segregated funds. Because these investments are structured as insurance contracts, they bypass probate entirely, allowing beneficiaries to receive funds directly within days of the investor's passing rather than waiting months or years for estate settlement. This feature proves particularly valuable for first-generation wealthy Canadians planning generational wealth transfer, especially considering Erwin's observation that approximately 90% of children show no interest in managing their parents' real estate portfolios.

The episode also covers the BRRRR strategy adapted for stock market investing, where investors can re-leverage their profits to compound returns over time, similar to the popular real estate refinancing technique. With lending available up to $2 million per person or corporation and minimum investments around $17,000, this strategy offers scalable wealth-building for investors seeking portfolio diversification beyond traditional real estate holdings.

Key Takeaways
  • Leveraged Stock Investing with 25% Down: Segregated funds allow investors to control $100,000 in stock market assets with only $25,000 out of pocket, potentially multiplying returns while maintaining 75% principal protection guarantee from insurance companies.
  • Real Estate vs Stock Market Returns: While real estate typically appreciates 3-5% annually and requires significant management, the S&P 500 has historically returned approximately 10% annually, and with leverage, effective returns on invested capital can reach significantly higher levels.
  • Warren Buffett's Index Fund Philosophy: Research consistently shows that low-cost index funds outperform actively managed hedge funds over time, with Buffett's famous million-dollar bet demonstrating a 125.8% return for the S&P 500 versus 2.8-87.7% for selected hedge funds over a decade.
  • Estate Planning Benefits: Segregated funds bypass probate because they function as insurance contracts, enabling beneficiaries to receive funds directly within days rather than enduring lengthy estate settlement processes that can take months or years.
  • Portfolio Diversification Strategy: Financial experts recommend diversifying beyond concentrated real estate holdings into multiple asset classes, as having all investments in local real estate in one currency and one country creates unnecessary risk exposure.
  • BRRRR Strategy for Stocks: Similar to real estate refinancing, investors can re-leverage stock market profits by using accumulated equity as down payment for additional investments, creating a compounding wealth-building cycle.
  • Minimum Investment Requirements: The leveraged investing strategy requires a minimum total investment of approximately $50,000, meaning investors need around $17,000 out of pocket to begin, with lending available up to $2 million per individual or corporation.
Links to Show References
  • Infinity Wealth: infinitywealth.ca
  • Wealth Summit Event: Saturday, January 31st (virtual tickets available for under $30)
  • LendCity Mortgages: lendcity.ca
  • Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki: Available at major bookstores
  • (00:00) - Chapter 1
  • (00:20) - – Introduction and Erwin's Background
  • (01:10) - – From Immigrant Child to Real Estate Investor
  • (01:37) - – How Rich Dad Poor Dad Changed Everything
  • (02:26) - – The Math Behind Real Estate vs Stock Market Returns
  • (03:38) - – Scott's Similar Journey with Rich Dad Poor Dad
  • (04:23) - – Erwin's Experience: 40+ Properties and Eight-Figure Portfolio
  • (05:57) - – Introducing Leveraged Stock Market Investing with 25% Down
  • (07:49) - – Why Passive Stock Investing Appeals to Busy Real Estate Investors
  • (10:47) - – TSX Performance and the Case for Stock Diversification
  • (12:43) - – Loss Protection: Understanding the 75% Principal Guarantee
  • (14:47) - – The BRRRR Strategy Applied to Stock Market Investing
  • (16:23) - – Combining Home Equity Strategies with Leveraged Investing
  • (17:11) - – Insurance Licensing and Investment Qualifications
  • (17:56) - – Selecting from Thousands of Segregated Fund Options
  • (18:47) - – Warren Buffett's Index Fund Philosophy Explained
  • (19:41) - – Why Low Management Expense Ratios Matter
  • (20:18) - – Estate Planning Benefits and Bypassing Probate
  • (21:18) - – Why 90% of Children Don't Want Real Estate Portfolios
  • (21:38) - – Wealth Summit Event Details and Contact Information
  • (23:42) - – Closing Thoughts and Future Collaboration

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